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Saturday, April 16, 2011

"Sound Off" Corner ...

I would like to share my thoughts and ideas with you.  Please see my comment ,,,

90 comments:

  1. Aug 9, @6:45 PM, let’s do a reality check- you complained about obstacles placed on the Gunderson’s beach. They were beach chairs. Over the weekend the beach chairs were placed near the only path that extends from my parent's house to the beach. Nothing was blocked by the chairs-nothing. My dad was born in the 1920's and he shouldn't climb down the dune to get to his beach. He needs to use the pathway. Unfortunately "activists" routinely park themselves directly in front of his path, and his only safe way to the beach is often blocked by these self-appointed beach activists. My parents were not in the mood to step over this neighborly group, so when the throng was there my parents never made it to their chairs. The activists had ample open beach to use in both directions, yet they felt a need to sit smack dab in front of the path and spread out from there.
    Maybe the "activist" that is on the town council should propose a law prohibiting unoccupied beach chairs or towels. Hey, this will allow the Town to ticket any person that leaves their beach towel or chair for more than 10 minutes. If a beachgoer needs to heed the call of nature and walk out into the water, they will be required to leave a note on their chair or towel explaining what they are doing out there, and approximately how long it will take. Problem solved.

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    1. The Voice of Reason to Dave Gunderson:August 12, 2014 at 9:12 AM

      1. I haven't seen your father use the beach or swim in the lake in years - but I'm thrilled to hear he does as I love to see people enjoy it as much as we do!!!
      2. The chairs were all spaced about 15 feet apart parallel to the shore - not a problem at all, but hardly conducive to family gathering... And we'd be happy to see you all among us - and it would give you a better vantage point from which to listen to our conversations - and hear them accurately.
      3. If your father ever needs help getting to the shore, please do not hesitate to ask - anyone on the beach would be glad to help (assuming his family cannot).
      4. I've never heard a vile word from the "perpetual malcontents" - further, I've never heard "the activist who is on the town council" use profanity or any other vile or disgusting words. As a matter of fact, I'm trying to think if I've ever heard her completely spell one? Nor have I heard the same from her sisters - anyone who knows the girls in that family from their all their years in Long Beach simply understands that the use of vile or profane language is not their M.O.
      5. I'm thrilled to know that your elderly parents, who apparently cannot navigate their way to the water's edge through the other sunbathers due to their advanced age (though plenty of other elderly do - as well as some physically challenged) still have healthy enough hearing that allows them to listen to conversations 200 yards from their deck - even if they are apparently not hearing the conversation accurately. It must be that same agility that enables them to operate power tools while sheering bushes and mowing the lawn (I know we do this for our elderly parents or hire services when we are unable to get to town - it's fortunate that it has not come to that for your family). Yet, I understand that walking through beach chairs can be tricky.
      6. Anyone who has lived in Long Beach for any number of years has always known that the Gundersons have always complained about people on the beach and attempted to chase them away - that is indeed their M.O. However, thinking one owns the beach and wanting to own a beach - vs. actually owning a beach are quite different things. That said, this is no longer going to be tried and determined through the court of public opinion - it is now going to be decided in a court of law thanks to the Gundersons (and their supporters) in their suit against the State of Indiana.

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    2. The Voice of Reason to Dave Gunderson:August 12, 2014 at 9:13 AM

      7. Speaking of vile, I was on the beach last summer when a guest of the Gundersons (by the heavy petting and other public displays of affection shared between them, I assume he was actually a guest of their granddaughter) verbally confronted "the activist who is on the town council" and her lady friends by blaring a boom box directly at their beach chairs on volume from a few feet away, positing his golden retriever upon exiting the water from a doggie swim to shake himself of excess water and sand all over these ladies as they sat in their chairs at the water's edge - one lady was actually holding an infant grandchild, and telling "the activist who is on the town council" that "next summer, you are going to have a sprinkler up her ***". Nice person - a real gentleman. And I thank the author of the previous post for starting a constructive dialogue on civil behavior - I've been meaning to address this.
      8. Speaking of the pending litigation between the Gundersons v. the State of Indiana, there is a hearing scheduled for this Thursday, August 14th, at 1PM at the Michigan City Courthouse on the Motions to Intervene filed by the LBCA, the Alliance for the Great Lakes, and Save the Dunes with respect to the second lawsuit filed by lakefront property owners claiming private ownership of the Lake Michigan beach. While this is expected to be a short hearing addressing only the limited issue of our right to intervene, all are welcome to attend. (Note - the Gundersons have already filed a petition to deny intervention by any party - claiming this is only a matter between them and the State of Indiana).
      9. And speaking of lawsuits in general, with respect to the first case against the town of Long Beach also filed by the Gundersons together with Margaret West and other unidentified lakefront homeowners through the Long Beach Lakefront Homeowners Association ("LBLHA"), which is on appeal from dismissal by the trial court, the LBCA, the Alliance for the Great Lakes, and Save the Dunes (together, "the Intervenors"), have achieved additional success. In late July, the Appellate Court sided with the Intervenors by denying the Plaintiffs'/Appellants' motion to stay their own appeal. That motion, if granted, would have left the Town and intervenors dangling in the Appellate Court incurring costs on a case that the trial court ruled never should have been brought against the Town in the first place. (See http://posttrib.suntimes.com/24620402-537/judge-rules-for-town-in-long-beach-property-rights-case.html#.U-oV9mPJ3QA)
      Have a safe and happy summer - see you on the beach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    3. You obviously are not The Voice of Reason, but merely borrowed the tag line. In any case, I'm so glad you have answers to all matters concerning Stop 22.. Did it feel good to get that off your chest? Hope so. Now please put the anger to rest and get on with your life.

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    4. I don't care if the Voice of Reason tag was borrowed. Very informative information and well said!!!!!!

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    5. The Voice of Reason to Dave GundersonAugust 13, 2014 at 1:16 PM

      Beyond reason, I'm also a Voice of Honesty... try it sometime - it's gratifying.

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    6. EVERYONE.....PRETEND YOU ARE LIVING IN LIBYA OR SYRIA OR EVEN IRAQ....just picture yourselves there...and maybe you will realize how lucky you are to be HERE and maybe just maybe you will STOP ALL THE B--LS==T

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  2. The Voice of ReasonAugust 12, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    In the words of Rodney Glen King III, "can't we all just get along?"

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    1. Yes we can....thank you for asking

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  3. To Dave Gunderson, Your letter is a good example of the negativity and slander you spread. You sued the town of LB and are causing them to spend thousands of tax dollars to defend LB. You are suing the state of Indiana which will cost even more from the pockets of the taxpayers.

    The life long upset caused by your intolerance of humans using the beach, in your sight of vision, speaks volumes.

    Your ridiculous false information will not be judged as anything but horrible behavior due to the fact there are a multitude of witnesses that use Stop 23 beach everyday.

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    1. I like the Gundersons...they are good people....I may not agree with their politics but I am not going to slander them for their beliefs not should you all...."judge not lest you be judged" amen

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  4. Great meeting last night.. if anyone doubted the lack of intelligence of two of the council members..no more doubts

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    1. Error, I meant three of the council members.

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    2. No, you were right the first time. Two empty seats on the council when it comes to elected officials who represent all residents in Long Beach not just their favored few.

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  5. why do you only have a website where you only publish comments you agree with

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  6. why are you 'activists" picking on old people wanting to go to their beach that they have a title to..are you that immature and insensitive..don't you have parents??

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    1. Who are you kidding? No one sits blocking their exit. No one usually sits anywhere near their home. The Gundersons have alienated those around them with their rude manners.

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    2. These old people have been picking on people for the last 40 years, harassing anyone who wanted to enjoy the beaches at stop 22.

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    3. Yes I have parents and they taught me to respect my neighbors and use good manners.

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  7. Since 1965, the residents in the house on the west side of the Stop 22 beach access have been known to be over the top in being nasty to beach goers.

    Their reputation over the years and how they dealt with the beachfront has only added fuel to the fire of what currently is going on.

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  8. Are you people serious? Please step back and listen to what you are saying - I go to the beach and can't find a place to sit, really? The beach is over 2 miles long, move down a bit and enjoy your day!

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  9. While you are all on the beach complaining about who is sitting where, is anyone looking for the criminals who committed the vandalism and arson ? Some without shoes on could not have acted alone! Too much broken glass, destruction, committed by a very angry mind.

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  10. Notice on the security cam video the criminal walks away from the front door, turns towards the stop and raises both arms in the air as if he is signaling someone. Take a look and you decide.

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  11. After watching the last council meeting I am dismayed and disappointed, as a log time resident and taxpayer, with our council regarding the vote on police protection. The vote went the usual 3-2 split. Are the 3 really looking out for the best interest of our town or is it for spite against the 2.
    The police commission recommended that the police protection cost for Duneland Beach and Michiana remain the same and increased 12% respectfully. To make matters worse, they gave these towns a 3 year contract with a small escalator increase. The budget committee person of the council provided some costs per household and felt the contract should be higher for these communities. Hearing the numbers presented and doing my own calculations, these communities are receiving a HUGE discount compared to LB residents pay for the same coverage.
    If the council cannot present to these towns a contract amount equivalent to what LB residents pay then something is wrong. Listening to the justification from the council president did not sway me one way or another. As a resident in LB I feel we should pay for police protection at the same rate as Duneland and Michiana. That can be done if $180,000 is cut from the current police budget. Simply put, Duneland and Michiana are getting a great deal compared to what LB folks have to fork out for the same coverage.

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  12. Perhaps you should have listened to the the discussion by the chairman, unlike the two who voted against the agreement. Getting $100,000 for doing what we would have to do for nothing is a pretty good deal. Perhaps some of our board members should take a a basic business course if you want them to run our town as it appears you want them to do. Their ignorance is frightening.

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    1. Take the $100k, but reduce the PD budget so it equals what the other towns pay. A basic business course usually has a chapter on budgeting and controlling costs. Why does LB need a dispatcher when everyone else in the county uses the 911 center. Michigan City, Trail Creek and Westville are disptached from the 911 dispatch center. Big dollars could be saved.

      To the contrary, I see Mr Byvoets trying to look at all department costs and ask critical questions.

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  13. What was the justification for this sweet deal?

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  14. I watched it also, the town of Long Beach pays over $800,000.00 per year for LB Police Department costs. Michiana will pay $46,000.00 and DB will pay about $45,000.00. The town of LB pays $700,000.00+. Jane and Pete fought this and Bob Schaefer, Pat McDonald and Bob Angelo sat there unable to explain why they would vote yes on this. Some dubious transactions going on. Irresponsible at best.

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  15. Math on police contract with DB and MS doesn't add-up. Both Bob Ss have conflicts of interest in negotiating with these communities and should have recused themselves from negotiations and the vote. Note to Bob Schaeffer, police busget includes many more things than just patrol time. Folks remember that 25% of the geography of LB is owned by country club which pays zero tax/ If DB wants to look for other options because it doesn't want to pay its fair share, let them.. Do you really think DB residents would accept longer response times from county or MC??? The real cost to LB is having police in those communities at anytime resulting in delayed responses, reduced patrol for LB.

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  16. How much would the Michigan City Police Dept. charge Long Beach for police services? How much would LaPorte County charge? What alternative choices for police protection do Michiana and Duneland have-and the rough cost? Why aren’t these options being discussed?

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  17. I believe that we should provide equipment to properly take care of our officers on the street. However, the question should be asked are we too gold plated in some areas and can tax dollars be saved? The town council and the police commission should be asking that tough question if they have not done so..

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  18. Elected Officials Did a Good ThingAugust 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    It seems that this blog has frequent negative posts against our town officials. I would like to divert from that norm and complement them on hiring a building commissioner who is independent of the community and has the time to devote in overssing the numerous building things going on. There might be some contractors not thrilled with the additional oversight but they all need to be marching to the same tune. Smart move elected officials.

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    1. It's especially nice to see his independence from members of the town council.

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    2. Are you suggesting he has no communication with Pete?

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    3. AHHH the old conspiracy theory...Very interesting indeed!

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  19. Many have commented that beachfront owners want to have a law to stop anyone from walking across their beach..HOW RIDICULOUS...if that were the case, the beachfront owners could not walk on their neigbors beach..or walk to michigan city...how stupid rumors can be.

    Also, if the beaches became totally public..we would be attracting everyone from everywhere to our beautiful beaches..let's be careful what we wish for...we don't want to see the busses rolling in from other communities dropping off people at bus stops to make things even more crowded and dangerous for our families. Has anybody thought thru what the consequences might be? Obviously not.

    Please, please, Let's not let our wonderful community continue to be torn apart by a few people creating fear and hatred with some other agenda.

    Let's find a group of people who can work things out instead of fermenting hatred where there was none for many decades.

    For example, there are are many beachfront owners who would be willing to share their beach on busy days with good neighbors if they were asked.

    Let's hear some positive ideas


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  20. This beach access issue is isolated to a few individuals on both sides that has unfortunately been amplified across our community. As a community we need to quit being enablers of this type of behavior.

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    1. This may be the best post I've ever read on this site. It truly is a shame that because of the actions and vocal outbursts of a few on both sides we see such negativity.

      Anyone who has lived here for more than a few years knows who the crackpots are.

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    2. It is isolated on the side of some very rude and uncivil lakeside homeowners who have filed suit against the town and the state of Indiana. There would not be this problem if they had not filed suit, get the facts straight.

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    3. Voice of Reason you continue to project this as a community wide battle when it is not. You may want to paint it that way so everyone can be enlisted to foot the bill for a fight you wanted, but it is a great disservice to this community.

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    4. The dispute albeit very isolated was the direct result of the town council being unable to give direction to the police about where they could and could not enforce private property/trespass laws. Due to Stop 22 being at the intersection highly frequented by nonresidents, the occurrence of unacceptable and disruptive visitors was/is greater than that experienced at other locations on the beach. The Gundersons have had to deal directly with incidences and individuals that none of us would welcome at any location along the lakefront. The town council could have tailored policy for that location that would have been responsive to the requests of the Gundersons, police and would have served the interests of all LBers.

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    5. Is there some kind of audition you have to go through to determine if you are "acceptable" to use the beach? What is the criteria and who determines if one is acceptable?

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    6. So you are saying if the town of LB would have violated the constitutional rights of people sunbathing at Stop 22, then Long Beach would not have been sued by the Gundersons. That is illlegal. Please reconsider your demands. North of the Ordinary High Water is land owned by the people of Indiana not Long Beach. If you go to Duneland Beach or Michiana or Michigan City no one can be kicked off legally if they are North of the OHW mark.

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    7. What I'm saying is that there could have been a solution afforded by our town council to deal with an isolated yet egregious situation. As it relates to the constitution, I don't believe it protects the rights of individuals to pollute, little, defecate, fornicate nor smoke weed North of the High Water mark. Step into the other guys shoes for a moment, if you can.

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    8. The above post stating people as unacceptable is sad and outrageous. Whoever posted is not speaking for me!!!!!!!

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    9. Was the family that was thrown off the Stop 23 beach last summer "unacceptable"? All they were doing was enjoying a beautiful summer day.

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    10. I believe they were told to leave by the same man who spoke at the July town council meeting stating he had never thrown anyone off his beach.

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    11. The word "unacceptable" which was used in an earlier post is clearly in reference to behavior which drives the determination of acceptability by any beacher's standard. The contortion of it in a manner by one or two bloggers to infer that it is intended to exclude in a controversial manner is an example of how small minded some people are in this small town.

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  21. On TV our police chief said that even if we did not have a contract with these towns they still would have to respond because they are the nearest law agency. Using his logic, if LB dissolved its police department would Michigan City then have to respond to LB, DB and Michiana?

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  22. Unfortunatly, we have members of our council with some future agenda difficult to comprehend. If anyone understands..please let us know what it is.

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    1. Are you wearing your tin foil hat again?

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  23. It’s been about 5 weeks since multiple homes were broken into and completely trashed along LSD between Stop 22 and 24. Oh, and one house was completely ruined at Stop 15-on LSD. Trashed? It was hateful, psychotic behavior: All the furniture was knifed, paint and other chemicals were splashed over everything, artwork knifed, big screen TV’s smashed. Even the appliances were ruined. It was total destruction. One house was deliberately set on fire. Set on fire! What have you, the citizens of Long Beach heard from your leaders and Police? Anything? Nothing? Are there any suspects? How many of you have been interviewed? I saw the surveillance video: The perp was barefoot. The perp motioned to accomplices at Stop 23 with his arms. Because of that I think he did not work alone. He was barefoot-he came from nearby. Hey, you get the kind of government you put up with. Are you as safe you think you are? They’re still out there.

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    1. I see the police riding thru my neighborhood at 4 in the morning I know they are working on finding the creeps.....keep an eye out ...if you see anything going forward ...speak up.....
      this is not the first incident albeit it may have been one of the weirdest and cruelest.....there have been break-ins pretty consistently over at least the past 5 or 6 years....I blame the economy, job losses and heroin.....for the problems we have now......We are saddened for the latest homeowners who were terribly victimized......lets be vigilant and show some guts in stepping up to caring for our community and our neighbors shall we.....peace

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  24. Your message is spot on. There should be questions asked of the police dept. and town council as to what is being done about this disgraceful situation. But the answer seems to be HUSH; if we don't talk about it then it didn't happen. It seems to be the way in Long Beach. I, for one have not heard a word from the LBCA on this matter which leads me to believe that someone knows something, but HUSH, we can sweep this under the rug.

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    1. that will never happen.....sooner or later the truth will surely come to light.....because of truth seekers everywhere...even here

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    2. Dear tin foil hat people....

      What great conspiracy are you dreaming of? This is a matter for law enforcement, not John Q public.

      If you are qualified to investigate these crimes call the police department and offer your services.

      Do you have information about these crimes ? Then call the police and give it to them.

      Do you believe that there is some conspiracy to allow these crimes to go uninvestigated or unsolved? If so call the state police and file a complaint/report.

      What are these questions you state "should be asked of the police department and town council"? Why don't you call the police and ask them these questions you have and report back to everyone what the answers to these ominous questions are?

      Is the LBCA now involved in law enforcement too? When did this come about?

      What is being swept under the rug? a big pile of HUSH?

      WOW!!!

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    3. people...we have to come together as a community!!!.....the beach is for one and all,,,,even if the busses start rolling along the stops again from MC or parts way beyond the beach!!! We have ro for all Indiana residents----- from South Bend to Gary to Laporte to Indianapolis to south!!! We are ALL beach lovers. It will soon be ruled. Thank God for our reasonable and caring council members who made this care/share a reality! We have much to offer. ....peace and love

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  25. FYI....Building Commission Meeting this Friday September 5th at 8:30 am....all are welcome....:)

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  26. new candidates for building inspector being interviewed this month fyi

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  27. what is happening with development at stop 31. Did the court rule in the owners favor? Does anybody know how long beach annexed that land

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    1. Probably a mistake, but county has sent taxes to LB for that property since 1998. La Porte County doesn't want it, so LB passed an acquiescence ordinance this year.

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    2. Why the complete silence from the LBCA and the LBPD regarding the multiple heinous felonies against LSD homeowners since they occurred? Their silence is absolutely d e a f e n i n g.

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  28. The owner owns it. You own your property. It's a simple concept. Why don't you concern yourself with your own concerns? Why didn't you purchase the property yourself?

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  29. Just a friendly reminder that nobody owns any land. Don't pay your taxes for a year or two and you'll find out who really owns it.

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  30. Heard about the property directly west of stop 22 being sold to Oakley builders for development. What a laugh...the people that kick everybody off their beach and sue the town over their supposed beach rites sell their property to someone who is going to knock it down and build two spec homes.

    So what happens with the lawsuit?

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    1. Why was their beach so crowded last summer if they kicked everyone off? ps: Stop 22 and the other State beach areas in L.B. will be a lot more crowded next summer.

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    2. That is what you said last year! Long Beachers are not afraid of you anymore, so stop threatening!!

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  31. Doesn't LB have an ordinance against spec homes? It's a shame that Oakley can do such harm to the character of the town Long Beach.

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    1. The day Oakley Builders came to town there was another building commissioner and building commission. Now there are professionals to depend on and the builders will be required to do business the right way. The day Oakley came to town is disdained from stop 14 to 31 and beyond.

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    2. I hate to break it to you, Einstein, but YOUR house is most probably a spec...as are your neighbors' homes....as are MOST of the homes in Long Beach. Even some Frank Lloyd Wright designs/homes are spec. In fact you can go to the vault at Taliesin West in Arizona and BUY a FLW or JLW design of your very own. A Spec for you!

      You really need to both seriously educate yourself about these basics, AND learn to embrace your OWN life and business--instead of constantly obsessing, hand-wringing, and complaining about others' lives, properties, assets and personal decisions. Take a few breaths and live...and let live.

      You might even faint at this, but in fact when YOUR home was under construction by...wait for it...an evil contractor...your neighbors hated YOU for your house being built, probably hated your taste in houses, hated the fact that you were now "ruining their view" (Of the golf course or the dunes or a meadow or the lake or the school grounds or your favorite neighbor's back yard, or you name it,) (HOW DARE YOU,) AND for the increased neighborhood truck traffic and supplies activity that you and YOUR tasteless house's conctruction required/created.

      You do not seem to have a grasp on the basic concept of what a planned community development is--and one which is OPEN to non-original builders to build on PRIVATELY (that means not you) held plots...despite the fact that you yourself LIVE in one.

      Did I mention that I hate your house? It's not a classic. Not even close. There should be a law....

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    3. Ha, that's funny! Long beach is now nothing but spec homes and McMansions!

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    4. Long Beach was conceived as a spec home community. What's wrong with that?

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  32. WHOMEVER "stole" the YELLOW and PURPLE MUMS at Stop 21...you are cowardly, spoiled FREEKS ! who took the sign there and whomever broke the fence there that had to b replaced at all of our expense ...if you yourself knows who did these cowardly deeds....you need to turn the creeps into the police DO IT !

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    1. Cowardly spoiled freaks is right! Criminal too. Nothing is off-limits to these people anymore. The assault on LSD continues. Shameful. Maybe it was someone visiting from out-of-town yet again. Lots of influx these days, and not even the flowers are safe. I'm afraid that next summer will be worse. Be vigilant!

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    2. We dont think the petty thefts are from "outsiders" because of the day and times it occured...look at yourselves for the answers and if you see something say something ok

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    3. I was being sarcastic about supposed "outsiders" assaulting our community. It could ~never~ ever be home-grown "college" aged boys or such. No, never.

      As far as the multiple felonies in which many people suffered months ago, still are, and will continue to for years, where is our FIRE CHIEF?
      Has anyone in the community been questioned by our Fire Chief or the State Fire Marshall (to whom its the law to report these felony arson crimes to?

      Has the Fire Chief even gone door to door with copies of the video pictures of one of the arsonists asking "Do you know this person? Do you know anyone that DOES know this person? Has the Fire Chief even done this basic requisite canvassing in the vicinity of where the sick crimes occurred? One was barefoot--from very close by. Stop 22/23? He signaled to others at Stop 23 on the video tape.

      What about the LBPD or the Town Council or the Alliance people? They can't be bothered? They want it to go away?

      Has the special state investigative unit in conjunction with the FBI made any progress?

      Indiana statues are such that they assign special units to this specific crime due to its obvious high degree of danger, and they doggedly continue to seek the criminals--that it's such an important matter that Indiana pledges by law to pursue any leads and dig deep until they're solved...no matter the time it takes. Has the FBI been on the job? It's supposed to be the case.

      Will our Fire Chief do his job in keeping us safe from these fire monsters? (Stopping them from hitting any Beachers again?) They're still out there for crying out loud. And we as a community have heard NOTHING. This is atrocious and completely unacceptable. We want answers from them, NOW! Something about this case is very very wrong.

      We as a community deserve answers. We can't even get any assurances. Maybe we need to rethink who we trust to look out for us and our basic safety--and look to the state and Feds for some help about this whole strange situation.

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    4. What do you think the fire chiefs' job is?

      Not sure what your rant is really about but the Fire Chief is not involved or in charge of investigating crimes.

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  33. I say build away. People got them so upset, continued to harass the home owners, not respect their wishes, etc. etc. I say tear down the old Purdy house (anyone know their history of LB) and throw up two HUGE spec homes that sleep 20 people each. It's what the rest of Long Beach has done. The stop 22 beach goers can sleep in the bed they've made.

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    1. Sounds like you want retribution more than what is good for this community. That motivation is destructive to yourself and your enemy. Please correct this behavior before innocent people suffer.

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  34. It is sure odd that nobody has had any comments about the screwed up way the local police have handled the Larkin case.

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    1. Ok...John Larkin has been dragged thru the mud...is he guilty...we dont know...his wife helped our family member as a local intensive care nurse....it is a tragedy and that is all we should say...really

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    2. NEWS....Chief Sulkowski has lost his father this week. Edward Sulkowski was a WW2 Vet and worked in our community I hope we will all put down the daggers for a moment and take the initiative to send condolences to him via the Long Beach Police Dept., Peace

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  35. What is the status of the investigation by the LBPD on the vandalism and the arson in Long Beach? There were a number of houses that were "hit." Surely they must have some leads.

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  36. Voice of Reason just re-read the Friday, October 10th News Dispatch article titled "Defense Looks To Suppress Some Evidence" for the third time. The actions of our Long Beach Police Department in the Larkin case may explain why they have no leads in the arson and break ins that occurred in August. We deserve better protection than what we are getting.

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  37. Could it be that our police and firefighters know but are protecting "one of their own"? Where's the FBI? Isn't arson a Federal offense?

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  38. Dear council members-

    I was very disappointed to hear of your settlement of the Stop 21seawall issue. As to my knowledge
    none of you frequent the Stop 21beach and you need to know that your actions have created a future hazard for our community. I had advised you of this many months ago, but apparently it didn’t mean anything.

    I am attaching a copy of signatures received on a petition asking you to do nothing less than require the total removal of the seawall. Apparently the signatures of over 100 area residents meant nothing to you either. This is another case of the town acquiescing to those with the most money and the loudest voices.

    You may believe that you have acted in the best interests of the town- but if you think that be the case then you are doing so with little vision for the future.

    The lakefront where that seawall is located, along with most of the land south of the seawall to the 2060 house itself, has historically been underwater. In the 1980s and 1990s there was barely enough room to walk 5 feet off the bottom of the Stop 21 stairs without being in the water.

    The lake will rise again and you have created a future underwater hazard. I will be happy to point the finger at each of you when someone is seriously injured or killed playing at the underwater hazard.

    I would like to thank Pete Byvoets for his opposition to this settlement and his keeping the stop 21 residents advised of what was happening with this issue, he is truly a public servant.

    As for me I look forward to about 1 year from now when we will have the opportunity to elect a new council who will be responsive to the desires of the people not to those with thick wallets who threaten lawsuits. I will work tirelessly to help elect council members who embrace openness and who do their homework so that mistakes like the Stop 21 seawall doesn’t occur in the first place. January 1, 2016 cannot come fast enough for me.

    Shame on each of you who voted for this! Generations of future stop 21 beach goers will look to this rusty seawall eyesore as a testament to your ineptness. I can only pray that no one down the road is severely injured by the attractive underwater nuisance you have created! The town has created a larger liability than it would have if you have continued to fight for its total removal.

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    1. Your long winded rambling makes little sense. When the water gets high, there is TONS of debris that gets exposed, things much more dangerous than a modern sea wall such as broken irrigation pipes, old piers, old destroyed metal pilings, etc. You're obviously upset that someone built on a piece of land that you once used and treated like you owned it. You should have just bought the property if your so emotional about it. This is getting really old.

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    2. Enforce the Laws with Strong Leadership!October 16, 2014 at 11:14 AM

      This whole debalce was a result of a building code enforcement system that failed and a Council president at the time that could not say no. The building inspector at the time had blinders on when it came to the town's view ordinance being violated. Council President and Building Commission member Angelo exasperated the problem by authorizing the seawall to be built. I wonder if he knew his approval was in violation of the view ordinance. This settlement is an example of the missteps the town has taken prior to the last election which added to the legal cost total. I expect and want our town leaders to acquire the facts and make decisions. Enough with the wishy washiness, sticking our heads in the proverbial sand and hoping the problem goes away. However, that will never happen until we understand and enforce the laws we have on the books!

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    3. Generally, debris becomes exposed when water levels go down. When the lake was high 25 years ago, I don't recall tons of old pierage and piping in the shallows. The point that Patrick Cannon made is reasonable. The 2060 seawall protrudes significantly further lakeward than any other constructed seawall in Long Beach. If the rules had been followed, that would not have happened; and it is not about who owns which grains of sand, but about sensible policy as to what sorts of improvements may be placed where on a private lot. And if you think that sort of regulation is an overreach---welcome to the concept of zoning and building codes. They exist all over the country. Google the term "setback."

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    4. Voice of Reason also agrees that the residents of Long Beach should be concerned about all dangers to our community and beachfront. As such, we still need a resolution to the arson and acts of vandalism that took place over two months ago. It took the Michigan City Police less than 3 weeks to solve their armed robberies near Sheridan Beach. Perhaps we need to enlist their services.

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